Successful Young Creatives
Successful Young Creatives guides aspiring young talents (and their parents) through the entertainment business world, led by Genevieve Goings—a Grammy-winning songwriter, Disney veteran, vocalist, composer, and accomplished kids' talent coach. With a career built on voice acting, music, and character work for major brands, Genevieve brings a wealth of experience to this podcast. Each episode offers young performers and their parents insights into voice acting, singing, and breaking into the industry, providing essential skills and strategies for those eager to book roles and pursue their creative dreams.
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From Florida to Disney: How the Glow Girls Defied Industry Expectations
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Ever been told something was impossible, only to prove everyone wrong? That's exactly what Susan Glow and her daughters accomplished when they built a thriving voiceover business from their Florida home—despite industry insiders claiming it couldn't be done outside New York or LA.
Susan pulls back the curtain on her family's remarkable journey from recording in a closet with winter clothes as sound dampening to establishing a professional studio that's now "stamped approved" by major studios worldwide. She shares the persistence it took to secure that first agent who took a chance on them, becoming the only talent on their roster not based in the tri-state area.
What makes this story extraordinary is that it happened over a decade ago—long before remote recording became standard practice. In those early days, booking meant hopping on planes to record in person, surprising clients who had no idea they'd traveled from Florida. Now, with clients including Disney, DreamWorks, Netflix, and Amazon Kids, the Glow Girls' home studio connects them seamlessly with production teams across the globe.
Beyond the technical aspects, Susan reveals invaluable insights about what clients truly seek in child voice actors: authenticity. "When a client hires a kid to do voiceover, they want to hear that kid's voice—not someone putting on a voice," she explains, sharing how this understanding guides her approach to coaching and creating customized demo scripts.
Whether you're a parent supporting a child's creative dreams or someone forging your own path in a competitive industry, this episode offers practical wisdom about persistence, strategic investment, and the power of refusing to accept limitations. Because as Susan reminds us: "Don't tell a mom no!"
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We had that one agent, that one agent that took a chance on us and they were based in New York and they got some opportunities from LA through them and opportunities in New York and through the Canadian animation markets and such. So New York was a good hub for us. We were in the same time zone when they booked something. I would get on a plane and fly to New York, wow, and nobody knew the clients. They would be recording with them and they'd say, oh, where do you live? And I'm like Florida, they're like what? S-y-c. Successful.
Speaker 2:Young S-Y Created. Yes, I know I'm gonna be successful. Hey friends, it's Genevieve and today I'm so excited to bring you behind the curtain with the mom and manager of some booked and busy talent. Okay, this is where we all want to get. This is Susan Glow, the mom and manager of the Glow Girls voiceover, a successful business made up of award-winning professional voiceover and singing talents Cassie Glow and Sabrina Glow these are my buddies too, and I have had the honor of working with them on some singing auditions. They have incredible singing voices as well.
Speaker 2:With over a thousand credits and a decade of experience, the Glow Girls have worked across multiple voiceover genres we're talking animation, commercial across multiple voiceover genres. We're talking animation commercial, singing and talking toys, promos, podcasts the list goes on. Okay, their clients include Disney, dreamworks, nickelodeon, fisher-price, mattel, apple TV+, netflix, lego, amazon Kids and more. The Glow Girls work with their clients all over the world from their professional home recording studio in Orlando, florida. So I'm just so excited to chat with Susan. She is my friend colleague and she's just you know, let's go boss, mom making it happen. As we say in our episode here, don't tell a mom no, honey. Here's Susan Glow. I am so excited to be here with the Susan Glow Girl. You are killing it. I'm so glad you're here. This is such a long time coming, by the way, and I want to thank you for being here, because we've been talking about this and so many other things and working on ideas together for like years now. Yes, right, a very long time.
Speaker 1:This is a full circle moment, for sure.
Speaker 2:Full circle moment and I just want to say like, congratulations on all the girls' successes, and so much is thanks to you too, and you're just. You work so hard at it and it's just. It's great because this podcast really is like for the family, like for the whole family, because it's a family business. Even though this is the kids doing stuff, it's a family business, yes, and I'm just interested to hear, because the girls have done and accomplished so much and remain just such good, wonderful people. They're beautiful, talented, smart, but they're like good girls you know.
Speaker 1:so just all around I'm just really proud of this.
Speaker 2:This is like the pinnacle of kind of what people would shoot for, you know so thank you. Oh, yes. So I was just curious. I'm just going to throw out questions to start, just wondering, like, speaking of starting, yes, what was that like? First getting the girls signed, you know?
Speaker 1:it actually was very difficult, really. Yeah, it was really difficult for us to get signed. Now, before Cassie and Sabrina started doing voiceover, they did do a little bit of on-camera work, some commercials, some print, you know, some work for Disney, little things like that. But as they got into the business, the part that really interested them was the voiceover. So, you know, we were in Tampa at the time, you know, so, being in Florida, not exactly a hot spot for voiceover at the time and I was like my kids want to do voiceover and everyone goes, no, you can't do that.
Speaker 1:You can't do voiceover from Florida, you have to be in New York or LA. And so there were no resources, there was no template, there was no model, there was no podcast, right, I didn't know where to begin, I didn't know what to do. I knew that my kids wanted to try this. They always loved singing, storytelling, reading, acting things out. I just felt that this was a natural next step, for you know what they enjoy doing and you know don't tell a mom no, especially not this mom honey. Don't tell a mom no, don't tell a mom, no, you can't do it from Florida.
Speaker 1:So the process actually to get started. And remember, Cassie and Sabrina are 17 and almost 19 now. They have been doing voiceover professionally for over 11 years. Wow, yeah, so 11 years, you know back when we were starting. This is pre-COVID.
Speaker 2:This is pre.
Speaker 1:You know, remote is the norm. Yeah, now, this is before any of that, right. So we started so long ago it just wasn't a thing. So to get signed for voiceover, which primarily at that point was just New York and LA, was extremely difficult. People suggested to me well, why don't you try to get an LA agent for on-camera work and see if you can get in that way? And I said, but that's not what they want to do, right? And so there just wasn't a straight path. So you know those memes that you see online of. You know here's what success looks like, or here's the straight line, and here's the line that we took. Ours is like that bowl of spaghetti thrown up against the wall.
Speaker 1:And yes, really the way it started is, I just started to find outlets for them to practice voiceover and before we got signed, we actually were just working on our own. They were booking on their own before we got signed to an agent.
Speaker 2:And how were you?
Speaker 1:finding those opportunities. We actually started with online casting. Okay, so that's how we got started. You know, I had enough little voice samples of them to create profiles online and we would just audition online.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's amazing and that's really sort of where they cut their teeth. How were you recording those voice samples?
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, when I see the booth that we have now versus how we started. We had a blue Yeti mic. We would hold up our scripts on my cookbook recipe stand. Yes, scripts on my cookbook recipe. Yes, we were in our very small sliding door closet with winter clothes that we no longer used from.
Speaker 1:New England and blankets, and so we just recorded and I knew nothing, I didn't know how to do it, but the girls talent came through and their authenticity as a child voice, you know, came through and they started booking and so the process to get signed. We actually just started doing the work. You know how they say. Kind of the solution to, you know, not knowing what to do is just take a step, yes, take a step, yes. And so we started with online casting and we started to have some success there. So after we started getting success with online casting and they had a few jobs under their belt, I was able to start building their portfolio and then I used that money to invest in classes, invest in better equipment, invest in a demo. So I started reinvesting at that early point of their career you know, they were just doing it for fun. This was their creative outlet when they were six, seven and eight and I used that money to invest back into their marketing profile essentially Right and just started networking.
Speaker 1:We were taking classes, we were trying to connect with people in New York and LA, we were taking coaching workshops and we were just trying to get out there and network, so a lot of it was literally me pounding the pavement like I was a door-to-door salesman.
Speaker 2:I love it and you honestly, like I still see you out there working it, which, again, perspective is everything right, like we can have these illustrious career resumes and then really inside we're like, dang, I need to get more work. Yeah, but honestly, it's great and it really does show that it's an ongoing process because you're their manager officially as well, and so you're out there, you're not just reactive, you're very proactive, which is great.
Speaker 2:That's a good little segue, because I was going to ask next, because you do everything from your remote studio, right, I mean?
Speaker 1:occasionally you'll come.
Speaker 2:Do you come in at all? Even the Disney Junior recent one was that also done from home?
Speaker 1:Well, you know, to continue on how we got signed, so when they had built up enough of a portfolio, we eventually we had that one agent, that one agent that took a chance on us and they were based in New York and they got some opportunities from LA through them and opportunities in New York and through the Canadian animation markets and such. So New York was a good hub for us. We were in the same time zone, right, we were their only talent, not in the tri-state area. Wow, yeah. So we were the only ones who just took a chance on us because of our profile, the demos, their bookings. They took a chance on us and we got onto their roster and Cassie and Sabrina went on to book, you know, multiple jobs for them.
Speaker 1:And at that time again remember, this is still all pre-COVID when they booked something, I would get on a plane and fly to New York and nobody knew the clients. They would be recording with them and they'd say, oh, where do you live? And I'm like Florida. They're like what Exactly? You came in here. So some of those first ones. And then for Disney, cassie booked that pretty early on in her career. She was on Vampirina. We flew to LA to go record that.
Speaker 2:I mean talk about dedication and honestly, because you need to a lot of times in your slate say where you're based. So would you say we're based there. Aka, I will fly there, I will be there.
Speaker 1:You know, back then we didn't have to slate your location as much. I think that became more commonplace after covid, yeah, when they wanted to know where somebody was. But we weren't slating our location back then because it wasn't even a thing. Right, yeah, you're just in new york, or la, that's it, that's what's so great about, like now.
Speaker 2:What a time to be in this business now like to be able to do this and set up your home base recording. I'm looking at you. It looks like that's a Neumann. It is, you are correct. Ding, ding, ding. Some girls like Neumanns. Baby, I like Neumanns. All right, that is gorgeous. Can you tell me like a little bit about your setup? Where are you right now?
Speaker 1:Yes, so we moved to Orlando and of move, picking out this house when we were having it built was to have a dedicated space for recording. Amazing, yeah, and so this is about like a maybe like a 50 to 60 square foot dedicated area in the house that we had acoustically treated. It's set off from the rest of the house so that it's quiet, and so the whole place is acoustically treated and sound panels, sound panels and everything, and, and if you can't, see them.
Speaker 1:They also have the a lot of imagery of actual roles they've played, which I love so much, if you check out their instagram too.
Speaker 2:You can see in their website like sometimes they'll post videos of them actually working and you can see their setup behind. It's really fun. It makes it like fun to go in there too and and get to work. I'm sure, yeah, it's like you know, get your game, face on yeah, exactly come in here.
Speaker 1:Yes, so that's a neumann tlm 102, yes, which is really nice and and then we looked into a steinberg ur12 inner, All right. And then for everything else, you know I use Audacity on my laptop. I use my laptop whenever the girls are doing dubbing or if they're recording to picture or if they have to see animatics. We have enough room in here to set it up that they can be watching the monitor while they're recording.
Speaker 2:That's great. Do you have a special fast Wi-Fi or anything for that we?
Speaker 1:do we do fast Wi-Fi or anything for that? We do, we do. We do not have wired internet, but we have 5G and we only dedicate. You know, all other devices are off it in the house when we're recording, so that we stay dedicated whenever we're in session.
Speaker 2:That is so awesome. I mean because literally now anyone in the world can confidently book them. Yes, you know, yes, I mean of course they're extremely talented. But just knowing that you know you guys are set up, it really does not matter that you don't live in LA or New York.
Speaker 1:No, and our recording sound, our booth, this setup, this whole chain that we have and this specific space has been stamped approved by multiple studios New York, LA, you know, by multiple studios New York, la, you know, London, australia, you name it. Now they know that our studio is at level and so now it's not an issue anymore, but it took a while to get there.
Speaker 2:It took a while I mean we invested in that over the years, right, right At that level. Oh, that's so great and it's so so worth it. And so what we don't see is you have a little space to hold the scripts we do.
Speaker 1:We have a music stand that we use. You know the script stand that you know when they're recording. We'll set it up right in, exactly in position so that they can just focus on their script and be on mic at the same time. We have a pop filter.
Speaker 2:Yes, and is that not Stedman? But it's like a, or maybe it's like a wire type of one. It's not cloth, it's not like no, it's not cloth, it's like mesh, it's mesh metal yes, mesh metal, yes.
Speaker 1:And then the headphones. You know, whenever they have to listen to a client, we're connected in on the headphones. And then I always record backup through.
Speaker 2:Audacity oh, that's awesome. And then are you on Session Wire or what do they ask you? Are there different things? You're are SourceConnect or are you like do you have memberships and things to all that?
Speaker 1:And how often do you get asked Like is there a frequency like oh, it's usually session wire, so we use a couple of different things for when we are in a session.
Speaker 1:If we are working with a client like a live client directed session. They will either connect through Google Hangouts or Zoom, some sort of video conferencing connection, and then we will record on our end. Oh awesome, so we're recording all the audio and then that way they can see each other. They usually say hello, say hi at the beginning and then shut off the video just to stay focused on the recording and to save bandwidth, and we'll record. Otherwise we can use something like Source Connect, which of course, is audio only, and the beautiful thing about using Source Connect is they're recording on their end and so we are purely just focused on delivering the script, not recording. And then other clients of ours depending, especially in anime or dubbing. You know we might use Session Link, but primarily it is Zoom, zoom and Source Connect.
Speaker 2:This is so cool, okay, so, oh, I was going to ask do the girls have return clients, like where you've booked something for a company, let's say once, and then they kind of kept coming back to you guys yes, yes yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:So that is our favorite. Over the years they have developed a portfolio of clients that come back to them time and time again. So great, and some clients that work with both of the girls, and so it's always just that nice. You know, when you know someone, you know how they work, you know how they operate, you know how they like things delivered. So it's just that familiarity with each other that makes the session go so fast, so smooth, and a lot of times you're like, oh, say hi to your sister for me or you know, oh, which, which glow girl do I have today?
Speaker 1:And you know these clients that come back. You know, they know what to expect from Cassie and Sabrina and vice versa, and you know, for example, one of our ongoing clients at this point. The sessions are five minutes long.
Speaker 2:They know exactly what it is and they know exactly how to do it.
Speaker 1:I mean Cassie and Sabrina. Both of them do this. You know, with this ongoing client, we get on the call, we talk for a while. How's the family? Hey. How's college going? Hey, how's that next theater thing that you're? You know because we've gotten to know them over the years and then, oh yeah, let's record.
Speaker 2:Yes that's right we were supposed to do. Do that. I have a regular client which I like to say like this started out as it was supposed to be one thing and it's been 16 years now, which is amazing. Well, disney publishing now but, one producer that I would work with all the time, named rob, it got to the point where I can read his mind like I can. If he shifts his shoulders like this. I'm like, oh, he wants me to do it more.
Speaker 2:Like oh, he maybe, like I was just going to say that, thank you, you know, but you start to know what they want and what kind of ABC reads they might want and like why, wouldn't you want to rehire that person they know? You know, so that's so great, I'm so glad you guys have that and I want that for everybody listening, you know, but it's not always the job.
Speaker 1:You're given the script, you're given the specs, maybe a rough cut storyboards you record on your own record. You know three takes of each line, clean up the files, deliver it, and it's, you know, just back and forth. And that's how we record. Other times when you're, you know, meeting a new client, that can always be, you know, just like a little bit nerve wracking, not nervous because they've been in the booth a thousand times, but just that. You know, learning how a new director works knew how you know how somebody else.
Speaker 1:I remember one time Sabrina got this piece of direction and they couldn't see her face, thankfully, but they said her reaction to me and she's looking at me in the booth, going what does that mean? They said, can you be a little less ta-da? And she was like sure, and you know, eventually you know we got there. And then sometimes you know Cassie is in a session and she's got a team in LA on one side and she's got a team over in Europe on the other side and she's watching the monitor and someone speaking in her ear and she's recording. And you know you could have one person on the line doing a remote session or we've had, up to you know, 1015 people listening at the same time.
Speaker 1:So wow it's it's definitely a different energy, that's, and a lot of cooks in the kitchen.
Speaker 2:A lot of cooks in the kitchen, yeah, sometimes the cooks need to prove that they need to be there by making notes that don't need to be made, but that's for another episode and I'm just excited for those of you listening still.
Speaker 2:Just, you know, I hope you guys are are starting to visualize yourselves in this situation, you know, and starting to think about how am I going to get there? Because you can get there. These guys are booking and they're in the industry with these amazing resumes and able to walk around down the street without being mobbed by paparazzi. You know, which is so great, I think, personally, the best way to be successful, personally, this is so cool. Okay. So this next question is it's like very open-ended and I feel like we could talk about it forever, but I was just wondering rather than advice.
Speaker 2:I more so like to ask if there's any mistakes that you see people make or want to prevent some of our listeners from making.
Speaker 1:That line to success was the spaghetti against the wall.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Because I've had at one point just to try to move forward and to try to take that next step you know, so many irons in the fire at the same time and trying to see what works and trying to see you know what's going to connect and what's going to get us to that next level. But if I could look back, I would say the biggest mistake that I made was very early on. Now. Mind you, I had really wanted to get them into the business. Yeah, and everybody said no, right, right. And so I eventually found this one mom whose kid had one time done a voiceover because he was also on camera in that commercial, and they just asked him to do the voiceover and I said where did you record?
Speaker 2:You know, like I was just trying anything to get some information.
Speaker 1:And so she connected me with the person that recorded, and so I'm just going to give myself a little grace here. I really wanted them in. I maybe was seeing stars and didn't quite see what's in front of me. Long story short, he turned out to be a very cheesy radio guy. Oh gotcha, no, no, no, no, no. On the plus side, cassie and Sabrina did get practice stepping up to the mic and reading different scripts and such. But it was like yeah, I can do these lessons and at the end I'll make you a demo and you'll do this. And so I was like that sounds great. And so they got practice on the mic, but not that many lessons, you know. They didn't really know anything. They were so brand new. And he went and recorded them and said okay, I've got your demo for you. I was so excited to get a demo. I was like this is going to be my ticket, I just need their demo. And then all these doors are going to open. And you know that time when you think everything your kid does is great.
Speaker 1:And every single drawing gets magnets up on the refrigerator and you know they can do no wrong, right, I will tell you. When I got these demos back, I was so excited because I was like this, we're finally making progress. And I listened to those demos and I was like, wow, these are bad. I'm like I love my kids so much, I think they're talented, I think they have potential, but even I know as their mother, I can't put this out. I can't put this out. These are terrible. I've heard them do better playing in the family room with their toys than this.
Speaker 1:So I think the biggest mistake I made was rushing in to get a demo, one before they had really had enough experience and two with someone who clearly was not qualified to be doing a demo. I let that get ahead of me because I wanted it so badly. I wanted to book, I wanted to move on, but that was probably my biggest mistake. Thankfully, I didn't send it out anywhere because I always in the back of my head, I was like you don't have a second chance to make a first impression, and if I send this demo out and I make another one in a year, no, that doesn't work. You already sent out the garbage. So you can't make that that mistake, and so I. I think that was the biggest mistake I made early on was making a demo before they were ready. Yeah, with someone who wasn't qualified, who didn't know the market, who didn't have any experience in the industry.
Speaker 1:So that was my biggest mistake yeah, well, thank you for sharing that that is like, because it's true we've all kind of done that.
Speaker 2:You know that too fast thing and you're just like because I want it, so I want it so bad, yeah, yeah, and even just knowing what auditions are out there and what, what they're like, and if you're kind of reading something that is, I don't know, that sounds like a quote. Unquote demo script. I guess you know, and yeah something I feel like I hear is just like too loud, too big, too ta-da. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:And you know what Now Sabrina would be able to tell you what that meant.
Speaker 2:No, but I just mean, you know, so often these people are looking for like just that genuine kid voice, you know which doesn't require you to stand with your feet, you know, hip width apart, with your hands on your hips and just screaming a line out you know that's really not what it is, and so I do, I do hear that and I just love that so much.
Speaker 2:And I love that you're talking about the bad demos, because you and I have combined forces to help people create demos. Yes, susan is an amazing writer as well. She crafts demo scripts specific to your child, so she will interview your child and see what it is they actually like. So when they're talking, you know, when they're delivering this commercial script, that it's genuine.
Speaker 1:That's what clients want, right, that it's genuine, that's what clients want, right. When, when, a when a client is hiring a kid or a teen to do a voiceover whether it's commercial or animation, it doesn't matter what the genre is, they want authenticity. They want to hear that kid's voice. Not putting on a voice, not something funny, not something you know imitation, yeah, not doing a voice. They want to hear your voice exactly. And so that's what I have learned. I mean thousands of auditions that Cassie and Sabrina have done, that I have directed and edited and submitted every single one, and you know demos over the years that I have helped with, assisted with, created, drafted, and the commercials that they've done. I just, whether I like it or not, it's in my head, yeah, and you can hear that thing.
Speaker 2:I have an industry that's a good one. That's not yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so now you know knowing what clients want and what they're looking for. That's what I put into my demo scripts and I want it to be. You know, when we're partnering on something, for it to be authentic. So you want it to be something specific and exciting and personal to the kid, because that's when their real voice comes through.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. So that's the thing.
Speaker 1:If you just love broccoli so much like we're going to write you a broccoli script. Yeah, absolutely Do it. If you can sell broccoli, all those clients will be hiring you. Oh, you know what Exactly?
Speaker 2:Which? I do actually love broccoli now, which is so funny. I love that. So, if it's okay with you, I'd love to play a little sample of Sabrina's demo Okay. You guys check this out.
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Speaker 2:Laughter not included but likely to occur. Wasn't that amazing? She's so good, oh my gosh. So, written by Susan and delivered by the one and only Sabrina Glow, and I produced the music and background. You know sound effects and things like that. So we're a fun little team over here. I love it. And who wouldn't want to work with moms? You know, come on, we feel you girls, we get it done.
Speaker 2:Yes we get it done right, no matter what, oh my gosh. So also do you, as we're kind of closing out here and again. This is like a family, a community, like we don't gatekeep here. We want everyone to win and get better and grow. And so I'm curious do you also coach? Are you available for coaching, mentoring, things like that, and how would people get in touch with you for something like that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are available All of the glows. A lot of times I will do conversations and sit downs with other parents just wanting to bounce ideas off of it. You know kind of like how we are today just asking questions and how do I do this and what do you think is the right next step which I'm always happy to do because, again, I had no one to call Right and so I'm happy to pay it forward. I've got all this knowledge in my head. Somebody, please use it.
Speaker 2:Right and a girl off in college and one on the way too, oh my, goodness that's right.
Speaker 1:And then I'm always available for audition coaching and Cassie and Sabrina both offer coaching, which is exciting for the kids, I think, to work with kids who have done it themselves right, they've been in the booth. They understand, you know, they know how to connect and the voices you know are so close. I mean, they're close in age, there's someone to look up to, but they're not so far removed that they can't relate Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Again, you're not just talking to a mom which we're cool moms, we're cool moms, but yeah, but being coached by, yeah, like a, a someone who feels like a peer, because the kids kind of like to look up and fancy themselves a little bit older and they're just again such sweet girls Like you could mess up in front of them and not be, you know, embarrassed.
Speaker 1:Oh no, not at all.
Speaker 2:Don't take their extensive resumes to you know, feel like they're, you know, untouchable. They are just really down to earth and amazing.
Speaker 2:This is so cool. I could go on and on forever. Thank you so much for just your time and, like opening the curtain, I feel like it's such a big. I call it all Hollywood, even though obviously you're not in Hollywood. But you know there's a there's this coolness factor and maybe people don't mean to act cool. Maybe we do mean to act cool in some way when we're promoting ourselves on social media, but you know we're just curating our lives on social media and we only post the good stuff, right. So to be able to just talk about like yeah, it was hard to get signed, or you know, we've missed out on opportunities, or sometimes we sit here wondering like do they forget about us? Where's you know? So it's just I appreciate you like just letting it all come out like that. It's just so great. I wish you nothing but the best and the girls just up to the sky and beyond. And I'm super excited for our kids that are already recording your scripts now for their demos.
Speaker 2:And we can share those and for those of you that are interested in that, we'll put all the info in the show notes, as well as how to get in touch with Susan. And yes, just thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're welcome. Yes, I want everyone to benefit from everything that I've gone through. Yes, and thank you so much. Oh, you're welcome. Yes, I want everyone to benefit from everything that I've gone through.
Speaker 2:Yes, and thank you for saying that and meaning it. You are so awesome. Well, here's to the successful young creatives in our lives and yours, and until we meet again. You guys, you don't have to be the best, you don't have to be the most beautiful, but you do have to be the only you there is. See you soon. Yes, I know I'm gonna be successful.